Nav V vs. Nav IV

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    This is an updated presenation that focuses primarily on the features and capabilites of the Nav V.  Much of the material is similar to the first presentation.  I have again separated it into two parts due to file size limits.


    I have 13 GSW with a Nav IV.  It has the not overly useful thumbwheel.  

    My GPS is up to date but the question is can I get more functions out of the thumbwheel.

    The voice commands dont work, I use a SENA SMH 10R that is up to date.   FYI it will blast me the directions when its telling me where to go.  HMMM I used to work for two German guys for 11 years but I digress…

    I am a long time Garmin user 15 years or so.  But this Nav IV thumbwheel is only helpful for basic function.

    Are there any hacks/workarounds out there or upgrades I could buy to increase functionality?

    One would think for the price of the device you could scroll through some meaningful menus even if limited to do while stopped.   Such as scrolling though your favorite destinations or what ever comes up that you normally have to use your finger on the screen to do.  The thumbwheel should do.

    Any suggestions are welcome.







    The Nav V paired with the Wasserboxers & whiz wheel is quite amazing. Acts as a second display providing all sorts of useful info from the ECU. Comparisons to GPS on these machines is apples to cavier.


    I’ve gotta say, GPS is an amazing add-on, but I still prefer old school maps.  OK, I don’t freeway nor do I need traffic updates, so I’m not the target demographic.  I in fact have a Nav V on my GS Boxer, and had to teach myself to watch for deer rather than see where I’m going on the Nav map.  These amazing options are quite capable and yet one should always stop the bike to fool around with it.  One famous ride leader hit a badger hole while GPSing and was airlifted out of the far outback.  Ouch.  Maps are far less distracting, cheaper, but the market wants all these farkling bangles and add-ons, so go for it if it’s your desire.  The older I get, the more I feel like going retro, rather than balls-out into the future with a cramped electronic cockpit and a robotic dame telling me where to turn.

    Your opinion may vary, and for the market’s sake I hope it does.  OTL recently did a nice comparo article on just this very thing: IV vs V. 


    Mike Hernandez, BMW Motorrad USA, Manager, Parts and Accessories and Ben Johnson, Garmin International, Technical Sales & Marketing Manager, Auto-OEM presented at the Barber Rally on the differences between the Nav V vs. the older Nav IV.  It was a well attended and extremely informative session.

    They have been kind enough to provide the presentation materials for our member use.

    I have posted this in two parts due to file size limitations on the site.


    I agree with you Kent.  Been using GPS since it was in development.  Garmin since a GPS45.  I’ve always separated the Garmins between the mapping/routing side and the bells and whistles side. Garmin only got the routing side together in last four or five years and you still need to work your but off designing the route in BaseCamp if you don’t want the babe in the box to send you through some screwy path you never wanted.  Garmin finally got the bells and whistles down in the last few versions of Zumo’s which the Nav V is.  Their BT setup before that was less than ideal.  The Nav V is the best setup I’ve ever worked with primarily because of the wiz wheel.  Once you get it down, there isn’t much you can’t do on the fly.  Messing around with even the touch screen was downright dangerous.  If you can’t do it with the wiz wheel on the move, you probably needed to stop anyway.

    Update, just finished about 5K miles using the V.  I’ve never seen ANY GPS that comes close to its functionality.


    I agree with you Adam, and always held off adding a GPS to my bikes. However I’ve recently gotten interested in endurance / timed rides as well as some of the scavenger hunt type tours and found that I really did need to add it.

    I picked up a Garmin 660  ( Nav IV ) at a great price after Christmas using a few gift cards and reward dollars and am now in the process of figuring out the best mount for my RT. 

    I think I’ve settled on the Wunderlich but am interested in hearing what others are using.



    I have both a Garmin 660 and a Nav V. Since the Nav V has features that integrate right in with my R1200GSW, I really like it. Additionally, it has better graphics than the 660 IMHO. That being said, the information it has in its database is only as good as the developers make it. When I was in a remote part of East Texas, and low on gas, it said there were gas stations where there were none. Either the 660 or the Nav V would have had the same wrong information as Garmin keeps that database and only updates it if bad data is reported or on a regular basis.

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